As Muslim employees of the same great Australian organisation that fired me* are “bragging about killing Israeli patients” (source), there’s been a bunch of Islamist terror attacks in Europe, and elsewhere, it’s impossible to keep up.
Muslims and Islam are like Klingons in Star Trek - they have a mindset stuck in around the 10th century and the technology of the 21st century.
Have you noticed how it's only the liberal white folk who stick up for them - the "moderate peace-loving" Muslims have absolutely nothing to say about their slaughtering co-religionists. And that's not because they are scared to raise their voice in case the Islamists come for them. It's because they believe the Koran is the actual Word of God and it tells them to kill the infidel. So they have nothing to say about their co-religionists killing the infidel.
They are hardly sny worse than the hundreds of millions of dumbf*cks who believed GW Bush's propaganda about Iraq having an active WMDs program in 2003. Anyone who wasn't retarded knew that was bullshit in less than a nananosecond.
How many of your bible bashing "cheeseburger eating surrender monkey" buddies have anything to say about the findings of the epidemiological study published in the Lancet in 2006 indicating that America and its allies butchered up to nearly a million children, women, elderly and other mainly civilian Iraquis between 2003 and 2006? Mass murderers, serial killers, and none of them went to the Hague.
I suggest you have a look into what the Bible says, at the site at the link below
The point is that the bible (and the Pope) may well have been why Christians beat the shit out of each other and everyone else back in the olden days but that was hundreds of years ago. Bush didn't go into Iraq or anywhere else because he was holding a fiery cross and wanted to destroy the unbelievers. He went into Iraq for political and financial reasons - religion had nothing to do with it. Christianity has had nothing much to do with anything for some hundreds of years now. The Americans, as the post-war dominant world power have been involved in the deaths of many millions but not for religious reasons but for financial reasons - these dead lived in oil-rich countries which weren't totally under the thumb of the USA. Individual Christians are not, on the whole, going around slaughtering people of different faiths. Individual Muslims are. Islam tells them to. Christianity doesn't anymore.
That's a reasonable point. Bush butchered Christians too. He decimated the Iraqi Christian population. Bush was the greatest friend the jihadis ever had.
Glad you could find agreement. Generally, when Christians do such things, they do so despite the teachings/life of Jesus. When Muslims do such things, they do so because of the teachings/life of Muhammad.
The first few minutes of this clip of Brigitte Gabriel tell you all you need to know about Hamas (and by extension most Islamists): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tbIkQyX8vw
Ban the Quran, shutdown all mosques. There is no such thing as a 'moderate' Muslim. If they are Islamic, they believe the Quran is the immutable word of God, and that book preaches hate to all Infidels. A 'moderate' Muslim is an oxymoron.
Sufis are hardly mainstream Muslims. In regards to Ali, you've really made my point. Ali was influenced by Malcolm X and the Muslim Brotherhood, which was more a political movement than a religious movement - and that's the whole problem with Islam. There is no separation of church and state. Rather than letting non-Muslims be, Muslims seek to dominate wherever they go.
Indeed, it bemused me that I had to spend so much time on the Sufis when teaching on Islam, when they are so few in number - because it's the 'nice face of Islam'.
Liberals' moral bankruptcy to condone increasingly frequent, atrocious Jihadi attacks without acknowledging that those are the result of their own immigration policies does not pass a basic smell test. Nor does their response to blame everything on 'online hate' as an excuse to create a blatantly biased judicial climate in which murderers are treated with rubber gloves, but people who do as much as like an online post that questions their failed policies get sent to jail. Since this political and judicial climate is extremely unfair, it cannot stand for very long and the tide is turning. JD Vance's speech at the Munich conference one day later is not merely a bucket of words. Reason is returning at lightning speed and the euro-loonies have but one option: to accept that fact and accommodate it.
Waiting to see if Imam Muhsin Hendricks who was murdered in South Africa the other day was murdered by a Christian. He was murdered not far from his Mosque after officiating at a gay wedding, as he had been doing for decades.
Remember Brenton Tarrant, the Christian who mass murdered 51 Moslems in their Mosque in New Zealand and Anders zBreivek, the Christian who murdered over 70 Socialist youth in Norway in protest against Islam? I'm sure you do remember.
The gay Imam is a sign that Moslems have become Americanized. The Moslems used to have a problem with Americans making sodomy a constitutionally protected right (Lawrence v. Texas, SCOTUS, 2004). However, American values of letting your teenage daughters get mastectomies when they don't have breast cancer or letting your sons have their testicles and Mike Johnson cut off and parading through every major city waving a Pride flag are catching on. I wouldn't be surprised if the American mercenaries like RF K Jr's son who have fought in Ukraine to uphold those values against Putin's rejection of them are Moslems.
Err… I think the response of the Muslim world is actually quite restrained. In my country Muslim people have been marching weekly to protest the genocide in Gaza and guess what it continues.
And the last I heard people of all colours are killing people… some people are just like that but guess what it doesn’t depend on their religion. Christians kill people too!! Really! Christian history is full of battles ways and killing… also non religious people kill people. It’s a human thing. Not a Muslim thing…
Please, put things in perspective and get a grip of your racism… you are only increasing the problem for us all
There is no convincing evidence that the Prophet Mohammed ever existed. The entire Islamic belief system and the older one it derived from is centered around a "God delusion" as Richard Dawkins argued. Religous whack jobs have a temporal lobe microseizure of the type that the late Canadian neuroscientist Michael Persinger repeatedly induced in his laboratory using directed electromagnetic fields and they misattribute the experience to "God," "the Prophet," "Fauci" or whatever.
It's a tough one but I'm open to that notion. Whether he existed or not, his followers did, and they conquered a huge chunk of the world. Lots of stealing, raping, and killing.
Yes you can be racist even if you are black, white, brown whatever… you can be Islamophobic if you have Muslim heritage. 🤷🏻♀️
How about directing your mind towards our real problems rather than encouraging working people to fight amoungst themselves while the richest continue to accumulate more wealth and power.
Just reporting what's already in the news. And it all seems linked to me. You speak of 'the richest'. The same people who forced the jabs on us are also forcing unreasonable trans ideology and rapid/reckless migration (for some reason largely from Muslim areas) which is very quickly transforming our Western societies - and I hardly think we could say it's for the better.
The mainstream news is not reliable and exists to tell us what the powers that be (left/right/far right whatever, all wish to rip us off and control us) want us to think… you know this… surely this is obvious now.
Christians did their mass slaughtering centuries ago - spent quite a lot of their time killing each other. And, yes, Christians kill innocent people but these days in places like the UK or Germany they are killing individual friends and relations rather than trying to kill as many natives of the Christian country they find themselves living in. I don't see how it's racist to call Islam a violent religion and its followers prone to violence against non-believers. Are you suggesting only coloured people are Muslim? Or that Muslims are a race, like Jewish or Caucasian, because it's not, it's just a belief system.
Thank you, I don't have the time or energy to refute every fallacious point people bring up. I believe they earlier said I should learn a little about Islam before speaking about it. Fair enough. I taught on Islam (even to Muslims!) and other world religions at one of the world's top universities for years, and have peer-reviewed papers on it, regarding things like politics and also metaphysics. Does that count? Good point about Christianity as well. As someone objective, I just need you to look at the 2 founders. One raped and tortured and killed. The other did none of those things and told his followers to forgive.
It's interesting isn't it that the one who said his followers should forgive ended up with followers who beat the shit out of everyone who didn't follow him in the "right" way and then got a load of monks to pray for forgiveness for them! The other one doesn't appear to have been a very nice bloke and wrote a book about it!
As with the “his” stories of so long ago… humans get to pick and choose to prove their point. The real issue is what do we do now? If we follow the example of Jesus, we love our neighbour, we have compassion, understanding and seek to find ways forwards that don’t involve hatred or violence.
You're so close. Read the teachings of Jesus and read the teachings of Muhammad. Read the stories of their lives, as recorded by their followers. You don't have to be a Christian or a Muslim or an academic like me to see that there are huge differences. Again, one of these men told his followers not even to defend him with violence, and the other routinely tortured, stole, raped, and murdered.
Your language betrays your prejudice… black and white thinking. A total lack of nuance. Open your mind and heart! You are being manipulated and you are creating the division that serves those who wish to control you… Wake up to your true enemies… (within and without).
What kind of nuance are you looking for when Muslim sources say that their prophet raped, tortured, and killed? Do the Christian sources say the same about Jesus? How ignorant can you be?
The nuance lies in the translation … as you are an academic I’d recommend reading Violent Phenomena: 21 Essays on Translation, specifically the chapter “Seeking Hajar: Decolonising Translation of Classical Arabic Texts”. Perhaps that will give you a broader insight. 🙏
That doesn't change that the Quran and other Muslim sources paint a very clear picture of Muhammad, one that is very different from a Jesus, a Buddha, etc. Speculative talk about 'inner jihad' can only take you so far. History makes it very clear that Muhammad and his earliest followers were conquerors. Don't you know anything about the Rashidun Caliphate? And how it closely aligns with so much of the Muslim world today? How do you think that happened, with sunshine and rainbows? Maybe your brand of yoga and decolonisation? No, it happened with bloodshed, imperialism. Murder, rape, theft, torture, slavery. But you'd know that if you focused less on emotions and more on facts. Go ahead and idolise a known rapist and murderer if it gets you off, just leave me out of it.
Muslims and Islam are like Klingons in Star Trek - they have a mindset stuck in around the 10th century and the technology of the 21st century.
Have you noticed how it's only the liberal white folk who stick up for them - the "moderate peace-loving" Muslims have absolutely nothing to say about their slaughtering co-religionists. And that's not because they are scared to raise their voice in case the Islamists come for them. It's because they believe the Koran is the actual Word of God and it tells them to kill the infidel. So they have nothing to say about their co-religionists killing the infidel.
It's super weird. Go to a Muslim country and imagine they're all White. Your liberal friends would call them EXTREME far-right.
They are hardly sny worse than the hundreds of millions of dumbf*cks who believed GW Bush's propaganda about Iraq having an active WMDs program in 2003. Anyone who wasn't retarded knew that was bullshit in less than a nananosecond.
How many of your bible bashing "cheeseburger eating surrender monkey" buddies have anything to say about the findings of the epidemiological study published in the Lancet in 2006 indicating that America and its allies butchered up to nearly a million children, women, elderly and other mainly civilian Iraquis between 2003 and 2006? Mass murderers, serial killers, and none of them went to the Hague.
I suggest you have a look into what the Bible says, at the site at the link below
https://www.evilbible.com/
The point is that the bible (and the Pope) may well have been why Christians beat the shit out of each other and everyone else back in the olden days but that was hundreds of years ago. Bush didn't go into Iraq or anywhere else because he was holding a fiery cross and wanted to destroy the unbelievers. He went into Iraq for political and financial reasons - religion had nothing to do with it. Christianity has had nothing much to do with anything for some hundreds of years now. The Americans, as the post-war dominant world power have been involved in the deaths of many millions but not for religious reasons but for financial reasons - these dead lived in oil-rich countries which weren't totally under the thumb of the USA. Individual Christians are not, on the whole, going around slaughtering people of different faiths. Individual Muslims are. Islam tells them to. Christianity doesn't anymore.
That's a reasonable point. Bush butchered Christians too. He decimated the Iraqi Christian population. Bush was the greatest friend the jihadis ever had.
Glad you could find agreement. Generally, when Christians do such things, they do so despite the teachings/life of Jesus. When Muslims do such things, they do so because of the teachings/life of Muhammad.
The first few minutes of this clip of Brigitte Gabriel tell you all you need to know about Hamas (and by extension most Islamists): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tbIkQyX8vw
Ban the Quran, shutdown all mosques. There is no such thing as a 'moderate' Muslim. If they are Islamic, they believe the Quran is the immutable word of God, and that book preaches hate to all Infidels. A 'moderate' Muslim is an oxymoron.
Nonsense. Sufis are quite moderate. Muhammed Ali was moderate. Mike Tyson is moderate. Go easy on the boosters.
Sufis are hardly mainstream Muslims. In regards to Ali, you've really made my point. Ali was influenced by Malcolm X and the Muslim Brotherhood, which was more a political movement than a religious movement - and that's the whole problem with Islam. There is no separation of church and state. Rather than letting non-Muslims be, Muslims seek to dominate wherever they go.
Indeed, it bemused me that I had to spend so much time on the Sufis when teaching on Islam, when they are so few in number - because it's the 'nice face of Islam'.
With current immigration and high family reproduction, Australia will be an Islamic country in about 100 years.
Maybe less - they are on their way. How many are currently Federal politicians - is it 4?
Indigenous people with need to ditch their ideas of retaining their language and learn a new one. They may get a 'Voice' to parliament if they do.
Seems inevitable. Islam is expected to overtake Christianity as the world's biggest faith tradition in around 50 years.
Stay confident. Peak bias is over, as I recently argued (also in Oceania):
https://www.wildhorsewisdom.xyz/p/arab-mares-are-fourteen-to-fifteen?r=31a4ti&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Liberals' moral bankruptcy to condone increasingly frequent, atrocious Jihadi attacks without acknowledging that those are the result of their own immigration policies does not pass a basic smell test. Nor does their response to blame everything on 'online hate' as an excuse to create a blatantly biased judicial climate in which murderers are treated with rubber gloves, but people who do as much as like an online post that questions their failed policies get sent to jail. Since this political and judicial climate is extremely unfair, it cannot stand for very long and the tide is turning. JD Vance's speech at the Munich conference one day later is not merely a bucket of words. Reason is returning at lightning speed and the euro-loonies have but one option: to accept that fact and accommodate it.
Islam is not a race, it's a death cult, a scourge that needs to be removed from the earth.
Radical muslims are instructed by the prophet to kill the infidel.(That would be the rest of the world to you that don't read history).
Moderate muslims are OK with that.
Try reading the Bible and it's exhortations to kill the unbeliever
https://www.evilbible.com/
Waiting to see if Imam Muhsin Hendricks who was murdered in South Africa the other day was murdered by a Christian. He was murdered not far from his Mosque after officiating at a gay wedding, as he had been doing for decades.
Remember Brenton Tarrant, the Christian who mass murdered 51 Moslems in their Mosque in New Zealand and Anders zBreivek, the Christian who murdered over 70 Socialist youth in Norway in protest against Islam? I'm sure you do remember.
Mohammad kills and directs followers to kill.
Jesus forgives, directing nothing but forgiveness.
Two different reactions to the same treatment.
Those two were not Christians but adherents to their own personal death cult.
The gay Imam?
Probably one of those chickens for KFC types.
The gay Imam is a sign that Moslems have become Americanized. The Moslems used to have a problem with Americans making sodomy a constitutionally protected right (Lawrence v. Texas, SCOTUS, 2004). However, American values of letting your teenage daughters get mastectomies when they don't have breast cancer or letting your sons have their testicles and Mike Johnson cut off and parading through every major city waving a Pride flag are catching on. I wouldn't be surprised if the American mercenaries like RF K Jr's son who have fought in Ukraine to uphold those values against Putin's rejection of them are Moslems.
I doubt that!
If the musloids are Americanized, why did they kill him?
2.04 Muslims in the world.
46,600 Muslims killed in Gaza.
Err… I think the response of the Muslim world is actually quite restrained. In my country Muslim people have been marching weekly to protest the genocide in Gaza and guess what it continues.
And the last I heard people of all colours are killing people… some people are just like that but guess what it doesn’t depend on their religion. Christians kill people too!! Really! Christian history is full of battles ways and killing… also non religious people kill people. It’s a human thing. Not a Muslim thing…
Please, put things in perspective and get a grip of your racism… you are only increasing the problem for us all
Thanks for that badge of honour. I could hardly be racist here, I am Coloured, very mixed, and even part 'Muslim'.
There is no convincing evidence that the Prophet Mohammed ever existed. The entire Islamic belief system and the older one it derived from is centered around a "God delusion" as Richard Dawkins argued. Religous whack jobs have a temporal lobe microseizure of the type that the late Canadian neuroscientist Michael Persinger repeatedly induced in his laboratory using directed electromagnetic fields and they misattribute the experience to "God," "the Prophet," "Fauci" or whatever.
It's a tough one but I'm open to that notion. Whether he existed or not, his followers did, and they conquered a huge chunk of the world. Lots of stealing, raping, and killing.
I can't argue with that.
Yes you can be racist even if you are black, white, brown whatever… you can be Islamophobic if you have Muslim heritage. 🤷🏻♀️
How about directing your mind towards our real problems rather than encouraging working people to fight amoungst themselves while the richest continue to accumulate more wealth and power.
Just reporting what's already in the news. And it all seems linked to me. You speak of 'the richest'. The same people who forced the jabs on us are also forcing unreasonable trans ideology and rapid/reckless migration (for some reason largely from Muslim areas) which is very quickly transforming our Western societies - and I hardly think we could say it's for the better.
The mainstream news is not reliable and exists to tell us what the powers that be (left/right/far right whatever, all wish to rip us off and control us) want us to think… you know this… surely this is obvious now.
Exactly.
Christians did their mass slaughtering centuries ago - spent quite a lot of their time killing each other. And, yes, Christians kill innocent people but these days in places like the UK or Germany they are killing individual friends and relations rather than trying to kill as many natives of the Christian country they find themselves living in. I don't see how it's racist to call Islam a violent religion and its followers prone to violence against non-believers. Are you suggesting only coloured people are Muslim? Or that Muslims are a race, like Jewish or Caucasian, because it's not, it's just a belief system.
Thank you, I don't have the time or energy to refute every fallacious point people bring up. I believe they earlier said I should learn a little about Islam before speaking about it. Fair enough. I taught on Islam (even to Muslims!) and other world religions at one of the world's top universities for years, and have peer-reviewed papers on it, regarding things like politics and also metaphysics. Does that count? Good point about Christianity as well. As someone objective, I just need you to look at the 2 founders. One raped and tortured and killed. The other did none of those things and told his followers to forgive.
It's interesting isn't it that the one who said his followers should forgive ended up with followers who beat the shit out of everyone who didn't follow him in the "right" way and then got a load of monks to pray for forgiveness for them! The other one doesn't appear to have been a very nice bloke and wrote a book about it!
Is there any particular reason that you omitted to mention Brenton Tarrant and Anders Breivek?
No mention of the current slaughter in Gaza… Ok then….
As with the “his” stories of so long ago… humans get to pick and choose to prove their point. The real issue is what do we do now? If we follow the example of Jesus, we love our neighbour, we have compassion, understanding and seek to find ways forwards that don’t involve hatred or violence.
You're so close. Read the teachings of Jesus and read the teachings of Muhammad. Read the stories of their lives, as recorded by their followers. You don't have to be a Christian or a Muslim or an academic like me to see that there are huge differences. Again, one of these men told his followers not even to defend him with violence, and the other routinely tortured, stole, raped, and murdered.
Your language betrays your prejudice… black and white thinking. A total lack of nuance. Open your mind and heart! You are being manipulated and you are creating the division that serves those who wish to control you… Wake up to your true enemies… (within and without).
What kind of nuance are you looking for when Muslim sources say that their prophet raped, tortured, and killed? Do the Christian sources say the same about Jesus? How ignorant can you be?
The nuance lies in the translation … as you are an academic I’d recommend reading Violent Phenomena: 21 Essays on Translation, specifically the chapter “Seeking Hajar: Decolonising Translation of Classical Arabic Texts”. Perhaps that will give you a broader insight. 🙏
That doesn't change that the Quran and other Muslim sources paint a very clear picture of Muhammad, one that is very different from a Jesus, a Buddha, etc. Speculative talk about 'inner jihad' can only take you so far. History makes it very clear that Muhammad and his earliest followers were conquerors. Don't you know anything about the Rashidun Caliphate? And how it closely aligns with so much of the Muslim world today? How do you think that happened, with sunshine and rainbows? Maybe your brand of yoga and decolonisation? No, it happened with bloodshed, imperialism. Murder, rape, theft, torture, slavery. But you'd know that if you focused less on emotions and more on facts. Go ahead and idolise a known rapist and murderer if it gets you off, just leave me out of it.